Enlightenment is Overrated

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I admit it. I am Enlightened. (If I was going to take the Zen approach, I might say I am Enlightened because I know there is no such thing as Enlightenment.) I’m not afraid to admit that I have “reached” Enlightenment. I think far too many people shy away from talking openly about being Enlightened because it’s such a taboo subject. After all, isn’t Enlightenment something reserved for sages and mystics?

Enlightened people aren’t simply sages though; they’re people like you and me. We wear regular clothes, we work regular jobs, we eat, drink, sleep, and go to the grocery store just like everyone else. You don’t have to be a celibate monk living in a monastery to be Enlightened. Placing Enlightenment beyond yourself just perpetuates the idea that you will never reach it.

I think part of the allure (and taboo aspect) of Enlightenment is the fact that it is so mysterious. Ohh, he’s enlightened, he must be above everyone else, seems to be a commonly held superstition. People think that becoming Enlightened brings you further away from reality. You completely transcend it and dematerialize. Poof. He was enlightened. And then, he disappeared. (Sounds more like David Blaine to me.)

Part of the problem is Enlightenment can mean many things. Bringing light to dark places, bringing clarity, and perceiving the truth are a few different interpretations. But ultimately, Enlightenment is understanding your true nature. It’s the realization that you are not a separate ego, you are the eternal, unbounded energy of the universe.

That’s is a pretty powerful realization. And while I wholeheartedly believe in the value and merit of attaining Enlightenment, I think in some ways it is vastly overrated. That’s because people think Enlightenment means the end of their problems, the end of the struggles of living.

People want their mystics and masters to be free from the same struggles that make them want to escape life. They want Enlightenment to be a panacea for their problems. They don’t want their masters to have the same troubles they have, they want them to be beyond them. They see Enlightenment as some grandeur state where the struggles of life no longer exist.

The great Enlightened masters (Christ, Buddha, Moses, Lao Tzu, and many others), did not become Enlightened and retreat into a cave. They did not merely transcend their egos. They became great big egos. They engaged life completely and fearlessly and shook the earth from its very foundation. They did not seek Enlightenment as an escape from life, but as a means to live more completely.

Many people seek Enlightenment as an escape from life. And while Enlightenment can do many things, there are some things it cannot do:

  • Your realization that everything is non-dual will not break all of the previous self-limiting and fear-based beliefs you have with yourself. Breaking those agreements will require hard work and perspiration to change.
  • Wearing a Buddha necklace or getting a tattoo of the Yin and Yang will not stop you from having to solve real problems, like how to deal with the job you can’t stand.
  • Enlightenment will not solve your relationship problems with others or with yourself. It won’t make your husband any less barbaric, and it won’t lessen the wrath of your wife’s PMS.
  • It will not get you out of debt or free you from financial struggle. It won’t stop you from making stupid decisions, like buying an HDTV on credit, after you just missed your mortgage payment.
  • Transcending your ego will not make your ego disappear. You will still have to deal with ego-based desire and suffering.

Reaching Enlightenment will not turn you into an invincible ball of energy high above the world and all its troubles. It will not make you immune to the sometimes callous and careless words of others. Perceiving the truth of the Yin and Yang, the Diamond Sutra or the Bhagavad Gita will not make all of your problems go away.

Despite all the things that Enlightenment can’t do, there are certainly many benefits to “achieving” it. Most importantly, it will help you understand your true nature and help you find peace in your heart.

While Enlightenment can’t solve all your problems it certainly can help you realize:

  • Death and birth are an illusion. (But someone poking you in the eye still might hurt.)
  • Life is a dream with the brain awake.
  • Beliefs are subjective. Something is only true if you believe it is. (Except maybe gravity.)
  • Life is essentially one, everything is consciousness.

With these realizations you can:

  • Know that you are eternal and there is no reason to fear death, or anything for that matter. Essentially, if you are experiencing fear, there’s a bug in your consciousness.
  • What you do to others, you are really doing to yourself.
  • You know yourself through the difference of others, you perceive in others the reflection of yourself. Ie. if you think everyone else is an asshole, it just might be you.
  • Because we are all one, compassion and love become the highest principles.

Reaching Enlightenment doesn’t mean your soul shoots out of the top of your heart and you become omniscient. Enlightenment can help solve some of the toughest problems of life. But it is not a means of escape from life.

In reality, enlightenment brings you into a deeper, more intimate relationship with life.

Rather, Enlightenment means dropping into your body more completely. It means living life more fully, passionately and fearlessly.

Enlightenment isn’t about becoming omniscient and escaping life. It’s about living with verve and passion. Am I the only one that’s noticed people put Enlightenment above themselves, out of reach? What do you think, do people have the wrong idea about Enlightenment?

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Jarrod - Warrior Development
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Enlightenment is whatever you want to call it. Like every other concept in the book.

I certainly agree that the process of improving is more important than any state during.

nobdoy@gmail.com
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There are no states, experience, observer or observed, subject or object. Enlightenment is truly silent.

allen
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You listed all the things enlightenment will not do and you said that enlightenment will not stop you from suffering but that is exactly what enlightenment does. Enlightenment by definition is the end of suffering. Before a person can be enlightened they have to walk away from everything the material world has to offer; certain friends and family, possessions, attitudes, perceptions, etc. That is exactly what Siddhartha Gautama did and it is exactly what Jesus did. If a person wants “enlightenment” they must give up all attachments and that is freedom from suffering because our attachments is what creates suffering… Read more »
Alexander M Zoltai
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Great article!

What you call enlightenment I have called detachment:

~ Alex

nobdoy@gmail.com
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This is illumination, detachment, but not complete enlightenment. You are right, there is no enlightenment, there is also no consciousness, or energy. This is all illusion, to completely rid the mind of mind and all illusion is enlightenment, this means no more work, no more birth or death in either existence or nonexistence. You have more work to do if you are illuminated, living in oneness or consciousness. This is still a perception, there is also nonperception, in reality, there is neither perception nor nonperception. nothing ever happens in reality, nothing changes. Freedom from perception, nonperception, oneness and duality, thought… Read more »
Evelyn Lim | Attraction Mind Map
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Jarrod is right. Enlightenment means different things to different people. But one thing is for sure and you are right to point it out, enlightenment also means being able to deal with, and not escaping, everyday problems and the transcending of the ego.

renardo mooij
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I can fully agree with the writer. However, the empty field is the true state of the Absolute I recognize myself. This ‘field’ will bring you more and more in touch with cosmic consciousness. That should be recognizable to any ‘spiritual seeker. Eventually this field your true state of Being. Then the life will frequently touch you and brings you some of the Most High state of love. Of course this is a literal approach to my “way” that I went and what I have been given daily. A clear state of being and a touch of love. I wish… Read more »
John Rocheleau - zen-moments
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I suppose we can talk about enlightenment as a mental concept like this, and then, as others have said, it can be anything you want it to be according to your experience of the term.

But there is also an experiential enlightenment or merging with the essence of existence. This event really does bestow gifts, it holds immense power, and it does relive suffering and confusion.

Words :-)

John

Sara at On Simplicity
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You really nailed all the stereotypes. I enjoyed your idea that enlightenment isn’t an escape from life and struggle, just from fear.

Marelisa
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“It’s the realization that you are not a separate ego, you are the eternal, unbounded energy of the universe.”

I think there’s a big difference between mental knowledge and inner knowledge. I think a lot of people can accept the concept that everything is one, but they haven’t actually experienced oneness. While those people who manage to experience oneness still have everyday hassles, they perceive and react to these hassles in a way that is much different than those who haven’t experienced oneness.

I do agree that you should see enlightenment as something that can be achieved.

Alan
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The question is: How can you manage to not perceive oneness?

Cedric
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@ John: I think you really nailed it when you said mental concept. Enlightenment can mean anything. In the traditional sense, at least in the buddhist sense, it means to be awakened. To see clearly. I think the more clarity that is brought to Enlightenment, the less people will shy away from it.

Cedric
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@ Sara: Totally. Enlightenment can help you transcend fear and better deal with your troubles. But it won’t make them disappear.

Mike Williams
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“Enlightenment can help you transcend fear and better deal with your troubles.” There is still a lack of clarity in understanding. Enlightenment is the complete shift of identity from “human”/ego to what you actually are: “Oneness”, or any of a number of other words: consciousness, awareness, God, Tao, Buddha nature, etc. etc. Oneness/God does not have fear. Oneness/God does not have problems. Oneness/God does not need help. When “you are enlightened” it is realized what “you” are is Oneness/God. Birthless. Deathless. Timeless. Stillness. There is nothing happening, there is no time. There *appears* all of this stuff, it *appears* as… Read more »
Cedric
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@ Marelisa: I think that’s really the difference. Expecting Enlightenment, or spiritual attainment to take the struggles and pains of life away is seeking escape, not truth. =)

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ZHereford
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Enlightenment occurs when we experience all that it means to be human – joy, suffering, loss, love, pain, compassion etc. and are still able to achieve clarity and put life and its struggles in perspective.

Cedric
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@ Z: I think that’s a great point. It’s about integrating the positive and the negative experiences, not trying to trade one for the other.

Ken | Destiny Building
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Yes, we can be “enlightened” and still be human. We can perceive that we are one with all things and still misplace our car keys and be otherwise far less than perfect. Excellent post Jonathan!

nobdoy@gmail.com
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These are all imaginations, perceptions, and ideas coming from the mind. These words are far removed from reality. Oneness is nothing else but duality, as dark is the absence of light, and cold the absence of heat. Understand that all of it is illusion. Freedom from all concepts, words, ideas, thoughts, perceptions, and not concepts, words, ideas, thoughts, perceptions is something like enlightenment. One can only say what enlightenment is because once one says enlightenment is, one is a liar and only pointing to enlightenment with symbol.

nobdoy@gmail.com
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These are all imaginations, perceptions, and ideas coming from the mind. These words are far removed from reality. Oneness is nothing else but duality, as dark is the absence of light, and cold the absence of heat. Understand that all of it is illusion. Freedom from all concepts, words, ideas, thoughts, perceptions, and not concepts, words, ideas, thoughts, perceptions is something like enlightenment. One can only say what enlightenment is not because once one says, “enlightenment is,” one is a liar, at least is inaccurate, and only pointing to enlightenment with symbol.

D
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Are those who write internet articles about being enlightened truly enlightened?

ed
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why not?

Yes, 90% of the time people claiming to be enlightened probably aren’t, but some are.

nobdoy@gmail.com
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These are all imaginations, perceptions, and ideas coming from the mind. These words are far removed from reality. Oneness is nothing else but duality, as dark is the absence of light, and cold the absence of heat. Understand that all of it is illusion. Freedom from all concepts, words, ideas, thoughts, perceptions, and not concepts, words, ideas, thoughts, perceptions is something like enlightenment. One can only say what enlightenment is not because once one says, “enlightenment is,” one is a liar, at least is inaccurate, and only pointing to enlightenment with symbol.

Amarendra
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Hi John, your passion to bring ‘clarity’ to enlightenment is commendable! An observation. In your statement “And while Enlightenment can do many things, there are some things it cannot do”, the “CANNOT” seems to be dangerous, and probably NOT accurate. It contradicts your “Enlightenment CAN help solve some of the toughest problems of life.” For example, breaking those self-limiting beliefs is actually EASIER. And, Enlightenment CAN make your husband less barbaric, or CAN lessen the wrath of your wife’s PMS. I guess instead of “CANNOT”, you probably meant “MAY NOT”:-) Though, I do get your message: “Enlightenment is NOT a… Read more »
Cedric
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@ D: Who knows. You’d be surprised at how many Monks are online these days. =)

@ Ken: Totally. Enlightenment will not make you any less forgetful, or clumsy. It can make the experience more enjoyable though.

4 Mind 4 Life
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Finally, someone had the balls to write a quality article that made enlightenment seem normal and attainable. Most blog articles about enlightenment make it seem as if you need to be a superhuman to become enlightened OR when you do become enlightened, you instantly become an unapprochable, mythological creature that is psychic and has super powers…haha [maybe I went a little overboard]….

I really liked how you debunked some of the myths (i.e. wearing a “yin yang” necklace, etc.) I totally agree that the more people become open to the idea rather than shying away from it, the better.

Tom Volkar / Delightful Work
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Enlightenment can be a bitch. Here’s what I mean. Once there, one simply can’t go back to an ignorant state of being. It can be challenging to live in an enlightened state because we are then compelled to face our own bull and do something about it. Perhaps I’m not truly enlightened if I still struggle in this way?

ed
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lol… ignorance is bliss.

maybe your way of looking at it is wrong way. you should enjoy the struggle, it’s the reason why all the good sensations exist.

Duff
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I think you are correct in that most people’s understanding of enlightenment is “wrong view”–that realization and liberation will not necessarily solve worldly problems. But I disagree that enlightenment is overrated, given that almost nobody is really going for it hardcore, practicing 2 or more hours a day of very concentrated Vipassana, going on 1, 2, and 3 month retreats or more, etc. Very few people are awake, although there are more enlightened masters walking around (especially in Boulder) than I once realized. I’m curious by what measure exactly you have deemed yourself enlightened? Have you had a stable realization… Read more »
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Michelle
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Jonathan, such an Enlightened perspective!! Christians believe that, not only was Jesus Christ enlightened, but, he was the Son of God. And in order to believe this, people removed Christ from the human experience of sex, marriage, procreation, lust and even being breastfed as a baby! This correlates with your assertion that most believe being “Enlightened” is being “above” human experiential living!! However, one can only become Enlightened by moving thru the human experience, consciously. I would love to talk more on this subject! I am inspired by you!

Evan
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I remember a zen student being told by a Roshi: I have haemorrhoids, these things don’t change.

Parthon
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Thanks for the awesome post Jon, it made me realise that I was already enlightened rather than chasing some impossible ideal.

Just giving up fear, hate, judgement and predjudice, feeling love and compassion for all others and bringing light and passion into the world is all it takes. Not to be some grand poobah on a mountain somewhere. :)

Thanks so much for that insight.

also for Duff: doesn’t having a measuring stick for enlightenment cause it to be created as an external ideal aside from yourself, which was the exact problem discussed by Jon? :P

Cedric
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@ 4 Mind 4 Life: Dude, I’m cracking up right now. You totally crushed everyones dreams that wanted to become a mythological enlightened dragon.

@ Tom: Yeah, it sucks doesn’t it? All in all, I don’t think I’d have it any other way though.

Cedric
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@ Duff: I think it’s a common misconception that you need to pursue enlightenment as a full time job. Enlightenment is something that you should seek with a fire under your belly, but it shouldn’t be an obsession. If that’s what you’ve made it, you’re missing the point. There’s a good Koan that describes this: The student asks the master how long it will take him to reach enlightenment if he practices meditation for 4 hours a day. The master replies “10 years.” Then the student asks him how long it will take if he meditates for 8 hours a… Read more »
Cedric
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@ Michelle: You really nailed it with that one. Christians pedestalized Christ and said “Okay, you can be Enlightened. But that’s it. We can’t go around having everyone think that they’re the Son of God.”

@ Evan: Damn, that was priceless. Thank you, I’ll never forget that.

Bengt
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I got a tad disappointed when I read that “Reaching Enlightenment will not turn you into an invincible ball of energy high above the world and all its troubles.” :-)

You wrote a great explanation: “Enlightenment is understanding your true nature. It’s the realization that you are not a separate ego, you are the eternal, unbounded energy of the universe.” To me enlightenment has nothing to do with religion, you can reach it anyway.

Yogi Zen Dude
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There are a vast array of levels of enlightenment. The more enlightened one becomes, through conscious effort, the more one lives in bliss consciousness, seeing God in all souls, seeing God everywhere. Nothing can disturb there peace, once fully enlightened/realized.

Realizing God/Love in any situation, brings bliss.

And so we practice this.

Blessing’s of Peace…Love…Joy…And Infinite Abundance !!!****** =)

nobdoy@gmail.com
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read your own writing, this thing you speak of can never be practiced, that is why so few people reach it. it is only attained effortlessly. Those who reach never attain.

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Tom Stine
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As someone who also writes about this enlightenment/awakening stuff, I found lots of head scratchers in your post. I think that, fundamentally, the thing that gives me pause is this statement: “Your realization that everything is non-dual will not break all of the previous self-limiting and fear-based beliefs you have with yourself. Breaking those agreements will require hard work and perspiration to change.” To be honest, this statement runs counter to my experience and that of others. When the realization of no-self dawns, not merely an intellectual understand, but a true realization, beliefs disappear. As Ramana Maharshi pointed out, the… Read more »
nobdoy@gmail.com
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This is correct. Complete Freedom from thought, belief, consciousness itself, and itself itself.

Cedric
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Tom, Basically what I was trying to say is that their are ego-level agreements and beliefs you have and their are cosmic level beliefs (enlightenment level beliefs). Changing fear-based and self-limiting beliefs on an egoic level can be helped with enlightenment. But it does not make them go away completely all at once. Those are deeply ingrained habitual beliefs that take time to change. Again, that’s on an egoic level. I think transcending the ego is important as well, and more merely identifying solely with the go. But you have to transcend and include the ego, not merely deny it.… Read more »
Takuin Minamoto
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Hi Jonathan. I’m a first time commenter and visitor. Nice to be here. Like Tom, I also write on this subject. I find difficulty here with the language being used. Not necessarily due to any short-coming on your part, but it may be helpful to go into these things step by step. Basically what I was trying to say is that their are ego-level agreements and beliefs you have and their are cosmic level beliefs (enlightenment level beliefs). Are there different kinds of beliefs, or is there just belief? What is a cosmic level? Isn’t the idea of cosmic levels… Read more »
nobdoy@gmail.com
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good.

Davidya
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Interesting article but I don’t consider it a very good example of what “enlightenment” means. You do make a number of valid points about the many misunderstandings about it, but go on to perpetuate others. For example, full enlightenment IS about becoming omniscient. Quite simply, you become knowledge itself. It is true that anything you know about enlightenment is ALWAYS wrong because enlightenment has nothing to do with concepts. It is about being. It’s very important to see enlightenment as a process, not a goal. It is a natural form of human development. As such, we go through a series… Read more »
Davidya
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@Tom V It’s true that once you awake, you cannot go back. But the struggle some experience at first is temporary. A good teacher can help smooth the way. Rather than saying not “truly”, perhaps just not fully. Be patient, the process can take time but it’s well worth it. @Duff There are a LOT more people awake now than there used to be and it’s accelerating. You noticed a bit of that in Boulder. It’s also worth observing that meditation will not bring you to enlightenment. It can help prepare the ground, but waking is a very different thing.… Read more »
nobdoy@gmail.com
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yes, relax and awaken, there is nothing to do, no doer to do it, no it to be done. there is only peace, silence.

Cedric
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@ Takuin: You’re absolutely right, a belief is a product of the ego. I should have been more clear when I stated “cosmic belief.” What I really meant was perceiving the true nature of reality. In other words, knowing. In response to your second comment, I’d have to say that you are right again. In emptiness, there is no need for change. Everything is complete in no-thing. But when we perceive that the dream is an illusion. Do we merely transcend the dream and stop dreaming? Absolutely not. We merely create a different kind of dream. We still have the… Read more »
Cedric
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@ Davidya: You are right, I think, in a sense. Enlightenment is about being omniscient, but perceiving the illusion of the dream, doesn’t make the dream go away. In that sense, you still accept your ego, your character if you will in the dream, but you don’t identify with it. What I meant about not being omniscient is that your avatar is not omniscient. The Self is however, fully omniscient. You are absolutely right in your other points. Enlightenment in some senses is underrated. I merely wanted to point out the fact that enlightenment is not to be sought as… Read more »
Davidya
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Jonathan Thank you for the well considered response. Also good to see your responses to Tom, Takuin, and some others earlier on. I hope your readers do read the comments as well to get a fuller picture around this huge subject. Really, its a bit of an art to blog about something so vast, abstract and foreign to many people. The point you emphasized to Takuin was valid. There is a stigma to talking about it that clutters the airwaves. Partly this is it’s fundamental threat to the ego. And partly historic. Until recently, awakening was fairly rare and seemingly… Read more »
Duff
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You said: The measure I suppose that I’ve deemed myself enlightened is that I perceive the true nature of reality, specifically being, the non-dual nature of reality. That is it. I don’t have a master of which I’m under tutelage. I don’t have any sort of identification with a particularly Monastery or Temple. After all, Buddhism is the religion of non-religion. I take that very seriously. That’s a great way to delude yourself. You might be seeing reality clearly, but you might also be completely full of shit. I speak from personal experience on this one. Having a teacher or… Read more »
Tom Stine
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@Duff…. Fantastic comment. I couldn’t agree more that for most people, “enlightenment” is under-rated. So many people in the spiritual world are so content to dabble, to play around, to get a little goody here or a little feel good something there. But enlightenment? Impossible, they say.

But then you bump into an Adyashanti, who likes to say, “I invite you take the idea of awakening in this life time seriously.” And I take it very seriously. What’s the point of the whole spiritual thing if not awakening? None that I can see. Because no feel good trinket will ever compare.

Duff
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@Tom As a self-confessed dabbler at times, I totally agree with the sentiment that really going for full awakening is under-emphasized, excpet for a few shining lights like Adyashanti. Even amongst western teachers and spiritual communities, few will talk of their attainments and encourage others to really go for it. There is too much emphasis on 1-minute enlightenment, “enlightenment for busy people,” and so on. Jonathan has a point in that one can also overemphasize awakening. When you wake up, you wake up to your life and the world exactly as it is, nothing special. But it’s still paradoxically the… Read more »
Cedric
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@Davida: I think you’re right on my sloppy use of the term ego. I basically meant that to be termed your character, or avatar within the dream.

@Duff: I kind of see your point about verifying your awakening. But to me, that’s essentially just another part of consciousness echoing your confirmation. I already hear that echo. I also wasn’t trying to be vain or self-centered when I publicly claimed enlightenment. I just wanted to show other people that you can talk about it.

axel g
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“Value truth and reality over appearance and opinion”

Rudolf Steiner

Lola Fayemi / Nourishment for your spiritual awakening
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Great article and very liberating too. Many people associate enlightenment with perfection or superiority and believe that they would be problem-free if enlightened. I used to be one of these people and still am on certain days.

Personally, I believe there may even be more “struggles” on this path, it’s just our attitude towards them that changes. This is definitely the path for avoiding life.

In love, light and abundance x x x

Seamus Anthony
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Right now it is raining outside here where I live but the sun is shining through the rain, so I can see each drop clearly, and I can feel the warmth of the sun on my skin. If I want to go outside and get amongst it then the sun will continue to warm my face, but the rain will get me all wet (just like it would if the sun wasn’t shining). Oh, and come to think of it, the cool of the rain will probably negate the warmth of the sun … And I might have to squint… Read more »
Ozehro
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let me ask you a question. if you pinch your self, do you feel pain? if yes you are not enlightened, if no then you maybe right.What enlightenment in Buddhism refers to is the complete understanding of the self notion. we do so much in the interest of ourselves all the while not quite knowing what self is.lol. even something as moving your thumb cannot be claimed as self. when I move my thumb I can move it, but I have no awareness of the processes that took place. all the complexities of the muscles, blood cells and mitochondria are… Read more »
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Hi, my name is Stillborn and “I am” “Enlightened”. And umm, I’ve been this way for like….EVER!!!! Much appreciation for the open discussion but it should be recognized that this (blog, essay, discussion) is nothing more than the very subject of discussion. How hilariously ironic, all this back and forth presumably to dispel the ignorance which presumably prevents the realization of “ones” “enlightenment”. The only bit of accuracy to be gathered here is that “there is no such thing as enlightenment”! The rest is just superfluous mentation in wonderland by conceived individuals looking to conceive ways of reconciling with their… Read more »
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Bhavesh
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I have some diagreement with the author. Often we progress in our self development far enough that we begin to think that we are “enlightened” like Jesus, or Buddha or Krishna. But we are not there, yet. It’s one thing to “think” that we are enlightened and another to “know” that we are or to Live enlightenment. One of the things that Enlightenment implies is that you have truly transcenceded your Subconscious beliefs – in fact, you have no Unconscious beliefs. And once you have achieved that state they either don’t form or they dissolve quickly. This is one of… Read more »
Lobster
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You might find the qualities ‘Beyond Enlightenment’ of my site of value. People sometimes get caught in a position of awareness or a God realm. This of course is a state of being more awake; like dreaming with the light on . . .
Being one thing or in a condition, even a condition of being ‘awake’ may entail some notion of difference or attainment.

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